PSA/Help take down a blue lady?

[oceantier]

As a heads up, because it has the potential to affect a number of characters and/or a number of characters may have seen it:

In the arrival log, Lapis is not doing well with being pulled into the game, to say the least. She's a CRAU taken from a moment she was afraid for her life, so she's still in that mindset, thinking that this is something being done to her by her previous game's antagonist. She's trying her damnedest to escape -- while causing train damage and attacking others in the process. She has extremely strong hydrokinesis, so she's yanking water from wherever she can to attack others (thinking that they're going to attack her) and defend herself. So far she's broken a pipe underneath the train, which is gushing water. The mods have told me that the water supply is finite, normally replaced at every station.

Something should probably be done about the pipe, but I'm otherwise absolutely fine with other characters trying to subdue Lapis -- actually, I'd welcome the help. Again, she's extremely strong, having stolen the ocean in her canon, but we have a ton of other strong characters on the train. If people want to come at her in a group, I'll work with that, or if RNG needs to be done to determine who takes her down, I'm fine with that too. She can be "poofed" back into her gem if she takes enough damage. (Just please don't aim for the gem on her back itself and shatter it!)

For anyone not directly engaging, having seen it or having been knocked over by a wave/water whip at some point is a possibility.

. . . She'll be sorry for this later. ^^;

Comments

[melodiouspacifist]

Hydrokinesis you say.

Care for a battle of wills on that?

[oceantier]

Absolutely. <3

[melodiouspacifist]

He's not a bad choice - even if she could hit him, he's immune to water/blizzard attacks XD

Is it the same right back? (Just curious, he's also got a great big intstrument for whacking)

[oceantier]

Immune -- what does that end up looking like? Lapis uses water more as physical force than anything. There are a couple examples of this here (beginning at 1:00) or here (beginning at 3:36).

So I wouldn't say that Lapis is immune to water attacks herself -- more that she's much more likely to be able to counter or negate. (Or turn it right back on the source.)

[melodiouspacifist]

They are not dissimilar in that way. (I time stamped it, just if you were curious the kind of thing he does, but it's not the same tactics as her, he prefers geysers and balls to do his force.)

But in RP purposes, that's right, he's much more likely to control the water and turn it back on someone, it's just if he gets hit he wouldn't take damage from it. It's his element, and he's meant to narratively have control over it.

Which makes her a fun opponent because so does she, hence the battle of wills. >D

[oceantier]

Sounds like a potential good fight, then! Let's do this. ;)

[melodiouspacifist]

Excellent, excellent

[oceantier]

I realized I probably should have put this here, so whenever you're ready: The link, if you need it!

[oceantier]

I've been thinking: Since I have a few fight threads going, I'm thinking it would be helpful to RNG results -- who manages to cause damage, and who ultimately takes her down. Are you good with that?

[melodiouspacifist]

I'm totally fine with that, although he's more likely to help subdue her rather than take her down so I'm fine if it's not him. His only advantage here, while they're swapping water, is if he whacks her with his sitar and she's up in the air right now XD

[oceantier]

XD; This is a good mental image.

I think I'm looking for a "poof her back into her gem" kind of subdue. (I don't know if you're familiar with the series, but the core of Gems is the gem located somewhere on their bodies. Their bodies themselves are made of light, and when there's been damage, they vanish into their gems (with a poof) to regenerate.) The more she goes on with this, the more I'm thinking she may not listen without a reset.

In the case of these two, where they're throwing water back and forth at each other, it could end up being an accident or something, if that sounds more reasonable for him. I'm waiting to hear back from one person on whether or not they're game and before I roll any dice, but I'll let you know what happens!

[controlsthedie]

Than is in no condition to help, but the urge to have him get hit with water to make him more "I am done with today" is strong....

[oceantier]

lol, I support this! Poor Than, though.

[controlsthedie]

He's putting the water to good use, at least?

[oceantier]

/dies XD

Good work, Than. The flowers appreciate you!

I love that you did use it in a post!

[salutosinedelectat]

Aziraphale can literally snap his fingers and have her pass out. I have more information in my permissions post, and his powers are literally just...miracles. He just doesn't do it all the time, and I actively avoid breaking the game or godmodding other players.

But let me know if you'd like him to take action, but I would say that something more involved would probably be best to have other characters subdue her

[oceantier]

Hm . . . I would admittedly like a bit of battle! I will definitely keep this in mind, though, just in case.

He could probably do something about that pipe, though, if you're game. Then everyone can still enjoy the spa. ;)

[salutosinedelectat]

Hehe yeah he can do that. And they can meet up later on or something, after things settle

[oceantier]

Yes, please! She'll definitely want to apologize to people.

[najaran]

Posted from my iPad, yo please excuse typos and errors.

I can offer up Najaran for non-leathal takedowns. She’s canonically good at stopping someone from being destructive then befriending thwm, lol.

If the Link player offers Link, I can add Clef, but the two of them might be overkill, lol.

[oceantier]

Sure! You're welcome to join in!

I may need to RNG so that there's a clear "this is who took her down."

[najaran]

Just tell me where you want me and I'll be there. :D

[oceantier]

Honestly, you can probably just come in! Everyone's kind of doing their own threads. Which . . . maybe I should have done differently, in retrospect, but I wasn't sure who would join in, either. And hindsight is 20/20. XD;

Like I mentioned above, at some point I may need to RNG, but let's do it.

[najaran]

I'll have to go find the thread! Ty

[oceantier]

Whoops, sorry! It's actually linked in the underlined part in the main post. ^^;; I keep forgetting that it's probably not as visible, particularly on other people's friend pages.

For more convenience, linked here.

Also, I've been thinking: Since I have a few fight threads going, I'm thinking it would be helpful to RNG results -- who manages to cause damage, and who ultimately takes her down. Are you good with that?

[najaran]

Ty for the link, I'll go check it out. (Got sickish yesterday. >.<) And I am fine. if it comes up me I can let you know how Naja does it. (And if not, I can thread attempts with you)

[oceantier]

No worries! I'm going slow here with the start of the week. Hope you're feeling better!

I did the RNG roll and it came up with Demyx taking her down, but I'm glad to still play out the attempt with Najaran! It would have an effect on future CR.

[najaran]

Sounds like fun!

[hashtagparkerluck]

Peter has super strength. Day 18 or 19 he'll have web fluid again but he has to make it first.

Although, I get the feeling her water would just kinda... wash him away.

[oceantier]

lol, Aw, Peter.

He's still welcome to try, even if he may not succeed! And it will probably earn him CR later; she'll want to apologize.

[hashtagparkerluck]

Yeah, hers is one I feel like he'd 100% unprepared for but still jump into because, you know. Superhero. He's gotta at least try.

and yess. I'm sure Peter will forgive her easily. He gets is, new place, new rules and it's scary. Really, they're lucky they don't see more panic attacks like that.

[oceantier]

Points for heart, Peter. <3

The link, if you need it!

[helborn]

Casper can help out if you still need people. He can flash freeze stuff and also knows not to hit the gem. (He's on friendly terms with Bismuth in Synodiporia.)

[oceantier]

Argh, I would love to, but I probably do have my hands full at this point. My eyes are always bigger than my stomach. Thank you a lot for offering!! I'd love to catch Casper sometime, especially if he already knows about Gems. <3

Hallo yes, sorry I'm late

[light_of_willpower]

Hi, I'm the Trunks Player. How can I help with resolving this?

[oceantier]

Hi! You're not late; you already had a thread going. XD

I think it depends on what Trunks will want to do. Lapis is pretty freaked out right now, so while Trunks is doing a good job trying to talk to her, he's being drowned out by pure panic and fear. Getting through to her and getting her to trust that it isn't a trick isn't impossible, but it would probably take something fairly profound in action to break through. I will say that even if he doesn't manage to succeed, she'll remember later that he tried, and that will help with future trust.

He's also welcome to try to subdue her. I have a couple of others trying this. I'm thinking I'll have to RNG what happens and who manages to do damage vs. take her down, if you're game for that.

Any other thoughts on actions he might try to take?

[light_of_willpower]

Honestly, he's more worried about her hurting herself in her panic. Which means he's likely to try and grab and hold her so she can't hurt herself, until she calms down. Probably not the most productive route though.

[oceantier]

She probably won't hurt herself (though he doesn't know that), if it's any comfort. I think I didn't do well with the metaphor earlier, but the barrier, according to the mods, is more like "I feel like I'm flying up, but I'm not actually getting anywhere." So she's getting more anxious and frustrated than hurt.

Grabbing onto her and holding her . . . he might be able to do it, but it will likely result in something similar to what happened with Peter. She pulled the water around them both, cutting off air. She doesn't need to breathe.

If you don't think he would end up fighting with her, he could possibly open himself to attack . . . that would startle her, because it's the opposite of what she would expect from Lesedi. (Because she does think Lesedi, the villain from her previous game, is bending her mind or reality and doing all this to kill her.) That would certainly make an impression on her. If you don't think he would do that, either, maybe we can find a distraction or something so that she can get away? The more this goes on, the more I do think she probably needs to get poofed back into her gem for a reset.

Hopefully that all made sense; I'm thinking aloud. XD

[light_of_willpower]

He's baseline superhuman so the holding won't be the hard part--he does need to breathe however. He doesn't want to fight her--that's part of why he's just been dodging her attacks. But her attacking him with water while he's trying to grab her would open him to attack potentially. He's actually able to take a surprising amount of punishment, so if she wants to just throw attack after attack at him as he gets closer, she could.

[oceantier]

I did end up doing the RNG roll I mentioned, and Demyx will be taking her down, so she'll need to get away from Trunks ultimately. I hope this works for you! Again, anything he does will be remembered, and that can form the basis for later CR. So if he doesn't try to fight her . . . that may make a good impression.

We may have to figure out a way for her to get away, though.

[light_of_willpower]

Just have her keep throwing water at him. If this is going on at the same time Demyx is going to subdue her, once she's 'down' Trunks can and will halt persuit. Although he might want words with Demyx... ^^

[oceantier]

Hm, that's going on in a different thread, so that might be challenging logistically . . . (If I were to try this over again, I might have combined more people in threads, but you know. Retrospect. XD; ) We may need to find something else.

[light_of_willpower]

I'll try and read the other threads and see what's going on, and get back to you? He's worried about a--her hurting herself and b--her hurting others.

[oceantier]

Maybe what she's about to toss at him can slow him up/hold him for a bit? Lapis' water chains are incredibly strong, able to hold some of the most powerful beings in her canon. While I don't expect them to last forever, perhaps it could long enough for her interaction with Demyx?

[light_of_willpower]

It might work. Mind, he's from a series known for power-creep, and he's already baseline super-human before powering-up. How long do you think the interaction with Demyx would be? I think this is the best plan.

[oceantier]

It's always hard when working cross-canon this way, because it's challenging to compare power levels and bases. ^^; I used to watch DBZ when I was younger, so I have at least some idea of Trunks. She probably couldn't hold a super saiyan for long; she could only hold Blue Diamond, one of the most powerful in her canon, for a limited amount of time.

For context on her end, Lapis Lazulis are terraformers, sent to tear apart a planet's surface to prepare it for Gems. This means they carve through land, rearrange oceans, etc. -- basically demolish everything in sight. Lapis is considered to have more power than others of her kind. She was able to pull the ocean into a tower reaching up beyond the atmosphere -- and still have the power to fight off several other Gems at the base of her tower. She's working with a much more limited amount of water, but I'm thinking that, given all of that, she could hold him for a bit until he really started powering up.

That's how I'm reasoning through it, anyway. ^^;

So yeah . . . I think the thing with Demyx will take a few minutes, so if you agree, I'm thinking the chains will give enough time?

[light_of_willpower]

I can make sure they take enough time, as he won't go straight to Super-Saiyan. This is all still happening near the train/on the platform, after all.

[oceantier]

Sounds wise. XD;

Awesome. I'm glad we found a solution!

[light_of_willpower]

Me too. I'm excited for this CR.